tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post4990172877515084778..comments2024-01-13T13:40:31.385+00:00Comments on TOO DANGEROUS FOR A GIRL!: The Fury of Firestorm, the Nuclear Men #1 reviewMartin Grayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-49024887388420263852011-10-07T22:05:31.939+01:002011-10-07T22:05:31.939+01:00I don't know much about EVS's opinions, bu...I don't know much about EVS's opinions, but whatever they are, it's not a given they'll appear in the comic, surely?Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-61546666448402605872011-10-05T10:45:36.613+01:002011-10-05T10:45:36.613+01:00Martin-If that's the case, then everybody shou...Martin-If that's the case, then everybody should save their money and drop this title immediately. I'm not interested in EVS's opinions on race relations, nuclear power, or pretty much any subject. There is a man who should just be quiet and draw pretty pictures.<br /><br />EricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-41070818223421922342011-10-05T00:45:17.404+01:002011-10-05T00:45:17.404+01:00It's worth bearing in mind that Gail Simone di...It's worth bearing in mind that Gail Simone didn't write this alone ... I'm pretty sure that the impetus for this angle is co-plotter Ethan Van Sciver's and I'd be amazed if he didn't have a pass at the script too.Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-90888984000237355112011-10-04T20:30:10.517+01:002011-10-04T20:30:10.517+01:00This sounds like a bit of a mess and another probl...This sounds like a bit of a mess and another problem with this half baked reboot.<br /><br />Isn't it better if you're starting afresh to have one Firestorm, not two kids and a dead guy who somehow merge into a Super Duper Firestorm?<br /><br />There's a lot of continuity hanging around here which is going to confuse the new readers this reboot is supposed to attract.<br /><br />Not surprised by the 'sweet cheeks' comment - there was stuff in the Batgirl comic that made me cringe. <br /><br />I've realised a lot of my problem with Gail's writing is I thought a lot of the weaker elements were there for irony - now I realise it's just bad writing!And-Ruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17477156728610469053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-53665426291758957372011-10-04T20:17:38.646+01:002011-10-04T20:17:38.646+01:00I agree Martin, this comic was missing something. ...I agree Martin, this comic was missing something. I'm going to stick with it (seeing as how I subscribed to it) because I'm certain Gail will deliver something fantastic as the series goes on.Jimmy Trapphttp://hereticaljargon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-68291340692505391852011-10-04T19:53:17.224+01:002011-10-04T19:53:17.224+01:00I used to like Firestorm - I always felt he was DC...I used to like Firestorm - I always felt he was DCs answer to Nova - but this version...no, no thank you. Far too whiny, far too teen angst, and oh yes, far too violent. I must confess I havent kept up to speed with whatevers happened to the previous 'hosts' of Firestorm but I wish theyd kept them.<br />Surprised at Simone's writing. But maybe I shouldnt be...a once cool writer has gone off the boil.<br />Not my cup of green tea.karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814365568280298681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-18548045586268418562011-10-04T18:39:28.684+01:002011-10-04T18:39:28.684+01:00I felt the battle between the white kid and the bl...I felt the battle between the white kid and the black kid was forced. After all, they're being hunted by bad guys!<br /><br />I really like Yildiray Cinar's art - and his inks are intriguing on this book. So for that reason alone, I am going to give issue 2 a go. But the plotting seemed very forced to me.Rob Yhttp://www.robyeung.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-80137626869105558662011-10-04T18:36:01.197+01:002011-10-04T18:36:01.197+01:00No one in any other place, real or imaginary, than...No one in any other place, real or imaginary, than in comic books, does anyone say "Sweet cheeks".<br /><br />That alone is sufficient reason not to pick up Issue #2.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-45182558627917558422011-10-04T18:21:52.225+01:002011-10-04T18:21:52.225+01:00Gary, don't worry about it. You simply have a...Gary, don't worry about it. You simply have a different opinion, and you have been expressing yourself most respectfully. Nothing wrong with that in my book.<br /><br />I'll only add that it seems like the bad guys kill many more innocents then they used to. Modern heroes don't appear to save lives as much as seek vengence on the wicked after the fact. Doesn't seem like a balance of the scales, really. Is there a way to establish the modern villian as a threat without having them kill on panel?<br /><br />EricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-29597095432942035442011-10-04T17:38:56.950+01:002011-10-04T17:38:56.950+01:00No problems Gary, comments make me happy. I'd ...No problems Gary, comments make me happy. I'd be joining in but am at work, catching up after a rather arduous dental appointment this morning. I get your point of view, and it's very fair. But there's just so much violence against innocents in this book ... I think I failed to mention the family's block getting blown up, too.<br /><br />Back later!Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-91207009154479428212011-10-04T17:22:41.622+01:002011-10-04T17:22:41.622+01:00Eric & Dale - I really, really, don't want...Eric & Dale - I really, really, don't want to come across like some sort of troll here so please don't take offence! :)<br /><br />Martin said "<i>I'm pretty much OK with bad guys meeting a sticky end, and heroes dying heroically, but I can't stand ordinary folk being dragged into situations and murdered, just to show how bad the bad guys are.</i>" and that's the bit I didn't agree with, <b>not</b> the graphic depiction of the violence which I said was a separate question.<br /><br />Ordinary folk are dragged into situations in fiction and they die, sometimes (as Martin suggested) to reinforce how terrible the bad guys are, sometimes to advance a plot point, sometimes simply to evoke a reaction in the reader, and often a combination of these.<br /><br />Martin says he doesn't like that while I'm suggesting that from a story point of view ordinary folk are just as fair game as criminals. Bad guys are just that: bad which means that they will, unfortunately, kill people.<br /><br />For what it's worth, Dale, I agree that things left to the imagination are <b>always</b> better than what you are shown, particularly when it comes to horror movies. But again, I wasn't commenting on the depiction of the violence in Firestorm, rather Martin's comment about ordinary folk.<br /><br />Hope Martin doesn't mind us taking up his comment space! :)Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519816290322068250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-89286524485033411392011-10-04T16:42:30.494+01:002011-10-04T16:42:30.494+01:00Gary, a lot of this is subjective of course, when ...Gary, a lot of this is subjective of course, when we're talking about what should and shouldn't be depicted in comics, and how it should be portrayed. If those same acts of violence occurred in a mature rated book, staring a character known for gritty stories, I would be fine with it. But to attach violent acts to a Firestorm book "feels" wrong to me. Obviously, feelings are not a good barometer for questions of taste, but what else do we have to go on without the CCA, and a DC rating system that seems inadequate at best?<br /><br />EricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-69454583309980682362011-10-04T16:16:42.876+01:002011-10-04T16:16:42.876+01:00True Gary, but it's the depiction that's t...True Gary, but it's the depiction that's the issue. As famous horror director's favorite theory about that was "less is more." You allude to the act happening or had happened ,as opposed to gratuitous violence.<br /><br />After all isn't having to imagine the worst happening a lot better than actually seeing it?<br /><br />This book deserves better, and so does the Firestorm character. Here's hoping it doesn't tank...but it might.Mr. Morbid's House Of Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-14846729633768987782011-10-04T16:07:00.363+01:002011-10-04T16:07:00.363+01:00While I agree with Martin's assessment of Jaso...While I agree with Martin's assessment of Jason and Ronnie, I have trouble with the complaint about bad guys killing innocents. Sadly, whether in fiction or not, bad guys kill people. Whether it ought to have been shown in such a manner is a separate question but to my mind bad guys can't be blamed for being... well... bad.<br /><br />Just me two penn'orth.<br /><br />Meantime as it's Gail Simone, I'm willing to give this title the benefit of the doubt and stick with it for a while.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519816290322068250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-20194291233253305832011-10-04T15:04:37.999+01:002011-10-04T15:04:37.999+01:00Dale,
You're probably right about that. But,...Dale,<br /><br />You're probably right about that. But, my goodness, is there an editorial mandate for splattered brains for every T book out there? I never thought of Firestorm as being a grim-n-gritty character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-7433200637847044292011-10-04T00:36:47.786+01:002011-10-04T00:36:47.786+01:00She's trying, but I think her heart isn't ...She's trying, but I think her heart isn't in to it as much as it was in Secret Six.<br /><br />Poor Gail, stupid Didio!Mr. Morbid's House Of Funhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06721085161381688977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392489189136721402.post-79491122201933439072011-10-04T00:00:47.153+01:002011-10-04T00:00:47.153+01:00Wow, this makes me wonder what's been going on...Wow, this makes me wonder what's been going on with Gail Simone lately. She used to be excellent at balancing dark and light moments in her stories. But between the ultra-violence in Batgirl, and now this, I don't know.<br /><br />EricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com